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Tuesday, March 12, 2013

Othello Initial Response

After reading Act 1, Scene 1, respond in one of the following ways:

1.  Ask a question and pose a possible answer.  This should be a why or how question.
2.  Note a particular line, phrase, or word that resonates with you.  Explain your reaction or response to this line, phrase, or word.
3.  Note your impression of a character, a subject, or an idea that has been raised so far.  Use the text as a basis for this impression.


39 comments:

  1. Why does lago work for Othello if he hates him as much as it seems?
    There seems to be an end goal he's working towards that requires him to work under Othello, but I can't figure out what that something is. I think lago is envious of Othello and is woking under him to hopefully, some day over through him or take his position in the military. lago is very careful to not stay at Brabantio's house to long so it doesn't appear to others that he's working against and not for Othello. That I understand, but I can't seem to figure out why lago is doing this. Maybe this is something we won't find out until later on and that is why I can't come up with a definitive answer.

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  2. I think it is interesting how Brabatios mood changes when he finds his daughter missing. At first he is angry at Rodrigo for waking him. He tells him that his daughter isn't for Rodrigo. Then when he finds his missing he says good rodrigo lead on. He suddenly starts listening to Rodrigo and taking advice from him

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  3. Why does lago work for Othello if he hates him as much as it seems?
    There seems to be an end goal he's working towards that requires him to work under Othello, but I can't figure out what that something is. I think lago is envious of Othello and is woking under him to hopefully, some day over through him or take his position in the military. lago is very careful to not stay at Brabantio's house to long so it doesn't appear to others that he's working against and not for Othello. That I understand, but I can't seem to figure out why lago is doing this. Maybe this is something we won't find out until later on and that is why I can't come up with a definitive answer.

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  4. "Fathers, from hence trust not your daughters' minds / By what you see them act. – Is there not charms / By which the property of youth and maidhood / May be abuse?"
    I found it ironic that Brabantio is condemning those who disguise their inner character with a superficial facade, considering that Iago is the one who informed him of Desdemona's marriage. Brabantio laments that his daughter is not what she appeared to be, yet Iago, whose side he takes in the matter, has just concluded a lengthy speech about why it is best to conceal one's true nature. Perhaps at some point Brabantio will discover Iago's ulterior motives and become angry over Iago's and Roderigo's hypocrisy, but currently he is too caught up in outrage over Desdemona's marriage to think clearly about Iago and Roderigo.

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  5. From the reading of act 1, scene 1, I was able to gather the impression that Brabantio is very concerned with his reputation. I was able to infer this from lines 132-134, in which Brabantio calls Iago a villain, and Iago responds with, "You are a senator." At that, Brabantio says, "This thou shalt answer. I know thee, Roderigo." This line specifically suggested that Brabantio is concerned with his reputation because he doesn't futher challenge Iago after being reminded that he is a senator. In addition, at the end of scene 1, Branantio exclaims, "Get weapons, ho! And raise some special offers of night." In these lines, he is commanding a search party to go look for his daughter and Othello. This action suggests that he isn't comfortable with his darter eloping with a Moore, and wants her to come home.

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  6. Why did The daughter run away in the middle of the night?
    She ran away due to her love for Othello. I guess that her father did not approve of their love before, so she had to ran away to meet Othello privately.

    "We cannot all be masters, nor all masters cannot be truly followed"
    Seems that Iago is a guy with strong sense of logic and reasoning. He isn't just out to get the Moor, but rather to intellectually plot what is the worst ending he can brought unto Othello. He might be implying that in the world there is no trust in a master-follower relationship.

    My impression to the character Roderigo was first of all, kind of a negative one. He sounds like a phony that acts all friendly in front of the parents, but on the inside he is just out to get the daughter. His attitude changed dramatically when he is talking to Barbantio by constantly using "sir" or "reverend signior"


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  7. I believe Iago to be a very interesting character. He's clever, and scheming, and hates Othello. He seems to have no regard for Roderigo, using him merely as some sort of a tool in order to cause the downfall of Othello. He seems able to manipulate Roderigo easily, and possibly views him as an effective scapegoat. When names are asked by Brabantio, Iago never mentions his. Roderigo is only too willing to make himself known in the situation. Roderigo seems overly infatuated by Desdemona, and rather oblivious to Iago's scheming. Iago is enraged because he was denied a promotion he feels he deserved by Othello. When it comes to the point where Iago's face would be clearly seen by Brabantio, he leaves. Iago desires to keep his role a secret at this point. I believe Roderigo possibly wants to help Iago in order to gain a second chance at wooing Desdemona

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  8. Iago seems very persuasive, and will do anything to get what he wants. Because Iago was passed over for lieutenancy, he wishes for Othello's life to be ruined, and he goes to the lengths of making others hate Othello as well. He tells the story of Cassio's promotion to Roderigo, giving the suitor a reason to dislike Othello as well. Iago and Roderigo then convince Brabantio that Othello has made away with Desdemona, calling an entire mob to seek out Othello. Iago is very manipulative, and will usually use other people to achieve his own goals.

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  9. It seems as though Desdemona went off with Othello on her own terms, and that no physical force or manipulation was used. Of course, this idea could change as we learn more about the situation, but so far it does not seem like a "kidnapping," so to speak. Brabantio's dialogue makes it seem like a "shame on you" situation for the fact the Desdemona would agree to go off with a Moor, rather than implying that Othello kidnapped her. When Brabantio asks "how got she out?" and telling fathers "trust not your daughters' minds" it implies that Desdemona chose to go off with Othello.

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  10. From the first scene of the first act and the background information that we have given, my first impression is that the relationship between Iago and Roderigo is similar to that of Iago and Othello. This connection is on a more superficial level, and does not include the deeper feelings of resentment and hatred that we have been told Iago has toward Othello. From the way that Iago and Roderigo act in the first scene we can tell that Iago is superior to Roderigo and has more control. Whenever Iago makes a derogatory statement about Othello, Roderigo chimes in and agrees. This is similar to what we have heard of Othello and Iago's relationship because Iago has hidden feelings that he does not share with Othello, and instead follows and obeys him. We have not been told of or read about any hidden feelings from Roderigo, which shows that the connection between the two hierarchies is not completely the same. Despite the hidden emotions/lack thereof, the hierarchy between Roderigo and Iago is similar to that of Iago and Othello.

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  11. My question is, why would Iago want to ruin Brabantio's happiness if he despised Othello, I understand why it would hurt Othello; but, why would he want to hurt Brabantio in the process?

    My quote has to go along with this question, "Call up her father. Rouse him. Make after him, poison his delight, Proclaim him in the streets..." (pg.11) Iago seems to really want to get after Brabantio, it seems like he doesn't just want to inform the Senator that his daughter is not home to hurt Othello; but wants to ruin his pleasure and make sure that he is in anguish about it. I wonder why?

    "-O, unhappy girl!- With the Moor, sayst thou?- Who would be a father?-" (pg. 19) With the line "Who would be a father" it leads me to believe that Brabantio may have a little bit of guilt that lingers about his daughter. He may feel as though he has failed as a father, and that he could have done a better job raising her. I wonder if this is going to come up again later in the book.

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  12. Why does Iago feel that he is deserving of the military position?

    I think it may be because Iago is a character who has a limited amount of perspective in the grand scheme of things. He thinks that Othello demonstrated unabashed favoritism when he selected the other man, but I think that there's probably a reason that Othello didn't promote Iago. Relatedly, I think a large amount of Iago's hate towards Othello comes from the fact that the dark-skinned Moor is involved with a beautiful woman, and is higher up in society and the military than the jealous Iago

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  13. Roderigo and Iago have teamed up. Iago has a hatred for Othello and he knows Roderigo was a suitor of Desdemona so he uses that to his advantage. He tells Roderigo that Othello and Desdemona have gotten married. He then has Roderigo come with him to tell her father Brabantio. Iago seems to be the type of person who gets what he wants, and when he doesn't then he will do anything to get it. He didn't get the job from Othello so he is now planning revenge on him. He is using people under him, like Roderigo, to help him with his plan, whether those people know exactly what his intentions are in the long run or not.

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  14. Roderigo, an apparent friend or attendant of Iago, appears to be the kind of person who attempts to mimic the feelings and beliefs of others in order to please and impress. Instead of voicing his own opinions on any subject, it seems that his personality would require him to say what he knows the listener wants to hear, which is very often the opinion of that same listener. In this case, that person is Iago. Iago is explaining his hatred for Othello, and describing Othello's passing over of Iago for the job. Roderigo immediately agrees with Iago, going so far as to say he would have "rather been his (Othello's) hangman", than a mere ancient, sympathizing with Iago right away. Iago goes on and describes "the curse of service", and Roderigo is very prompt with his return statement of "I would not follow him, then.", referring to Othello. Roderigo seems very quick to pass judgement on Othello, based on what he is being told by Iago. It most likely doesn't have to do so much with Roderigo's feelings towards Othello, but Roderigo's inherent need to please Iago

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  15. A line that stood out to me was on page 19, line 184, when Brabantio states, "O, she deceives me." What struck me about this line was how he portrayed it as his daughter deceiving him. Brabantio, Roderigo, and Iago all make it appear that Desdemona sleeping with Othello is a terrible occurrence. This seems unjust and I feel that they should not view it as her deceiving them even though she may not have told them what she was doing. They have a right to be slightly upset, but this statement suggests that they are severely angry which is also shown later on when they set out in search of her and Othello.

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  16. 1. How did Roderigo find out Brabantio's daughter was having an affair with Othello in the first place? What is Roderigo's motive for wanting Brabantio to know of his daughters affair?

    2. Brabantio: "Are they married, think you?"

    Roderigo:" Truly, I think they are. "

    This line made me wonder how Brabantio had no idea of his daughters affair with Othello. It seems to me that back then marriage was a big deal, especially to a father because he usually had to approve of the spouse and the marriage. I wonder if Brabantio actually thought his daughter was in love with this Moor or if he thought she was taken by force. Since he is sending an armed band to search out Othello, he is obviously not taking into account that his daughter may be in love with Othello.

    3. Based on act 1, I see Brabantio as a man who isn't very bright. He had no idea of his daughter's affair with a Moor and as soon as he hears that she does he immediately sends out an armed band for Othello. First off, Brabantio has no real proof that his daughter is having an affair. He just hears the news from someone else and believes them. If I were Brabantio, I would want some real proof that my daughter was having an affair before sending a group of people to go after him.

    "Pray you lead on. At every house I'll call. I may command at most. - Get weapons, ho! And raise some special officers of (night)." (page 19, line 204)

    Brabantio is obviously a man of power because he has the ability to form such a band of people, but I don't think he realizes the consequences in doing so. He is a kind of man who acts immediately with out thinking first.

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  17. One question that I would ask after reading Act 1, Scene 1 would be why does Roderigo remain a good friend of Iago’s? It seems that for the most part Roderigo is just taking commands from Iago. I believe after reading just a small portion of this play that Othello contains a bunch of manipulation and lies. This being from the very first page it seems Iago and Roderigo are up to no good alerting Brabantio that his daughter is out with a colored man. To me, it obviously seems that Iago is set on separating Othello and Desdemona. Roderigo on the other hand, seems like he is just along on the ride. I’m very curious to see how in the next scenes the relationship between these two antagonists plays out.

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  18. I think that Iago's jealousy is not only because Othello has Desdemona, but also because Iago lost his position of lieutenant to Othello. Iago goes on about how Cassio chose Othello, rather than him. He uses a sarcastic tone to define Othello and his new position by calling him 'his Moorship'(1:1, 35). Iago tells Roderigo saying that he would follow him. Roderigo not understanding Iago's plans says he would not follow him. Iago then says that he will be using Othello for his own needs. I think this is a foreshadowing of what Iago will do to hurt the relationship between Desdemona and Othello.

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  19. What is the dynamic between Iago and Roderigo? Does one lead and the other follow? Or are they equal?

    I find Iago and Roderigo's relationship quite confusing. At first, I thought Iago would be the leader, as he seemed more outgoing and more assertive than Roderigo, as he is the first to tell Brabantio of his daughter. But, Roderigo then makes a plan with Brabantio to find Othello and Desdemona, becoming equally as assertive as Iago. However, I feel as though maybe Iago is a bit more harsh with his words than Roderigo, therefore making him seem like the leader, when perhaps in actuality they are equals. Maybe in the end, one will turn out to be the leader of the group?

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  20. 1. Why does Iago have such a deep hatred for Othello?

    2. In Lines 10-15, Iago goes into detail about how much he hates Othello for not making him a lieutenant. This is why Iago goes to Desmonda's father to warn him of Othello. Iago makes it seem as if Othello has committed a crime, when really all Othello did was elope with Desmonda.

    3. In act one, Iago's extreame jelousy is revealed. He comes across as the type of guy who can't let bygones be bygones. Iago uses words like "His Moorship, and the Old Black Ram," to put down Othello. Even though readers have not yet met Othello, sympathy is felt for him because of the way Iago decribes him. After act 1 it is immediately clear that Iago is the antagonist.

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  21. 3. Note your impression of a character, a subject, or an idea that has been raised so far. Use the text as a basis for this impression.

    (Line 45-47)

    "O, Sir, content you. I follow him to serve my turn Apon him. We cannot all be masters, nor all masters cannot be truly followed."

    In this sequence, I believe that a great deal of Iago's characteristics are revealed. Immediately, the readers are exposed to Iago's ultimate plan against Othello. Here, Iago presents the idea "we cannot all be masters, nor all masters cannot be truly followed." With this, we learn that he realizes that he cannot be a "master," but this does not mean that he will truly be loyal to Othello. As he says to Roderigo, "O, Sir, content you. I follow him to serve my turn Apon him..." This quote suggests that Iago is plotting serious revenge on Othello, and that he will slyly betray Othello's trust. Most importantly, my impression of Iago is that he is a vengeful and hate-filled man. Although we cannot know for sure what actions Othello has taken against Iago, I believe that no human being deserves to be racially discriminated.

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  22. "Raise all my kindred.- Are they married, think you?" Act. 1. sc. 1 Line: 187
    This line stood out to me because this is a question that Barbantio asks Roderigo when he comes to tell him that Desdemona is seeing Othello. The question itself, "are they married, think you?" Made me think because Barbantio automatically thinks of this question when Roderigo tells him of Desdemona's and Othello's relationship. This question seems weird to me because most of the time when someone finds out that two people are secretly seeing each other one of the first questions that comes to mind is mot ususally "do you think they are married?" In our modern day society this seems like a bit of a far fetched question for someone to ask upon hearing the news of a secret relationship.

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  23. Line 192: "Fathers, from hence trust not your daughters' minds..."

    This line resonated with me because I think it is a comment similar to one parents now. If a parent finds that his daughter has gone off in the middle of the night, he automatically decides that all young women are not to be trusted! There is a difference though between Shakespearian times and now. This comment by Brabantio suggests the status of women in Venice at the time. They are not believed to be intelligent and individuals. They are the property of either their parents or husband. I believe a modern person would use this comment in the heat of the moment, but Brabantio genuinely does not trust his daughter's judgment and thinks his own judgement is better. In the United States, we have come a long way from believing that women cannot think for themselves.

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  24. After the first scene of the play, I could already assume that Iago was a schemey, jealous and untruthful character. For one, right in the beginning lines of the play, Roderigo is questioning his loyalty and companionship to Iago. Apparently, Roderigo had been acting as a money bag or a "purse" for Iago, paying Iago to help him court Desdemona, but with little progress. Unfortunately for Roderigo, his courtship had come to an abrupt end as both Iago and Roderigo learn that Desdemona has married Othello; however, it was then that Iago assured Roderigo of his deep hatred towards Othello. Apparently, this hatred was derived from the choice that Othello made to make Michael Cassio a lieutenant, a position Iago had his heart set on. In order to retaliate against Othello, the jealous Iago created a scheme that he hoped would turn Desdemona's family against the Moor. In result, an angry Brabanzio, Desdemona's father, put together an army to go and search out Othello, just like Roderigo and Iago hoped he would.

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  25. Nick Pellechia
    Iago:
    Iago is an interesting character. He seems really "up in your face" and at times can be matter of fact. Iago's descriptions of others truly define him as a character. Iago describes Othello as a devil and as "an old black ram." These descriptions are in fact racist; however, Iago speaks as if these phrases aren't offensive to Othello. My first impression of Iago was that of a joker. Iago added humor to the conversations with Brabantio at first. After reading more, Iago begins to be rather disrespectful due to the fact that he is jealous of Othello.

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  26. My main question is why Roderigo is willing to help Iago? Is it because they are close friends or because he is jealous that he is not the one courting Deademona? The line I chose was "Fathers, from hence trust not your daughter's mind." I chose this line because of the way it characterizes women in this time period. We see in this quote that Brabantio is proclaiming that his daughter can not be trusted and that father's everywhere should not trust their daughters. This sort of warped view of women really resonated with me. We see throughout the whole reading that women are viewed as property and troublesome necessities of life. This theme seemed to stick out to me and caught my interest.

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  27. "I follow him to serve my turn upon him." (page 55, line 45)

    This line resonated with me as I read the text because of how it so simply characterizes Iago. With this one sentence, Shakespeare illustrates to his reader that Iago hides his true intentions and feelings from Othello. One can see that Iago is putting up a facade for Othello, only so eventually, he can take his leader's place as general. Iago's two-faced ways are sure to cause tension throughout the book as it seems that Iago's strive to overthrow Othello has already caused some tension in the story. It will be interesting to see how Iago's character fits into the grand scheme of the tale, and how his hatred will drive the plot forward in the future.

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  28. What are Iago's Motives?

    I believe that Iago is jealous that Othello has one the heart of Desdemona instead of him. He will do anything he can to try to win her over, even if it means lying and manipulating everyone he interacts with.
    Line 70 resonated with me because it shows that Rodrigo and Iago had planned this out. They are planning to lie to Brabantio and " dampen his spirits"
    3. I think Iago is a manipulative jerk and I hope that he never gets to be with Desdemonia.

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  29. A phrase that resonated with me in the first scene of act one
    took place when Iago demanded his supporters to awake Brabantio. He
    declared, "Rouse him. Make after him, poison his delight." Iago was
    determined to disadvantage Othello by angering Desdmona's father, the
    senator. This action alone characterizes Iago as the antagonist in the
    play, and it also foreshadows future conflict between him and Othello.
    The way that Iago persisted in 'poisoning the senator's delight' leads
    readers to conclude that Iago will put up a tough fight against
    Othello as the play progresses.

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  30. In class, we touched upon the reason why Brabantio might be upset that his daughter eloped with Othello. People were suggesting that it was because Brabantio felt betrayed, which he obviously had, but I think there's more behind his anger than betrayal. Brabantio is a well respected senator. He has a beautiful daughter that many suitors would be lucky to marry, until one night, Desdemona elopes with a "moor". Not only does Brabantio appear to be uncomfortable with this, but he also must be worried about his image. Brabantio appears to be the kind of man that worries about what people think of him for appearance reasons. When Iago is saying that Desdemona is "making the beast with two backs" with a black man, Brabantio is very stern. In the setting of this story, it seems as if interracial marriages such as these are highly frowned upon. I think that Brabantio is mostly worried about what society will think of him. He is worried about what people will say about him and how his image will be affected. What if Othello and Desdemona procreate a mulatto child? Brabantio's image would be tarnished forever, and his senator career could possibly be destroyed.

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  31. 1. Why is Roderigo sabotaging Othello and Desdemona?
    I believe he may be doing this because he wants her and he doesn't believe she should be with a moor.
    2. "Though I do hate him as I do hell"
    This line seemed very harsh to me. What could Othello possibly done to make Iago feel this way towards him?
    3. Roderigo comes off as very snobbish to me; this is because he continually bases his reasons why Desdemona shouldn't be with Othello on the fact that he is a moor. Roderigo reminds me of a character form the show Gossip Girl, Chuck Bass, at first Chuck was rude to Dan who was from Brooklyn, but then he opened up and became friends with him; I wonder if this will happen with Roderigo and Othello.

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  32. How can Iago and his friend Roderigo hold such disdain for one man when their seems to be a relationship present between the three of them?

    The only reference to our man Othello is through slurs of insults or by calling him the Moor. Other than an obvious reference to his ethnicity this phrase is used as a way of creating a less personal interpretation of Othello by lumping him into a group of people who Brabantio might have extreme or at least a small of mount of bias for.

    Roderigo does not seem like a man out to lynch a moor at this point in the story, for he only seems jealous to be losing Desdemona to Othello. That's why Roderigo takes part in this trip to Brabantio's house, his only intention is to stop love from festering between the two lovers. This is contrasted by Iago who shows blatant disdain for Othello some of which may come from a racial hatred.

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  33. Tim Brigham-
    I have a bad feeling about this guy, Iago. He seems like a pretty sly guy to me, trying to snake Desdemona away from Othello. He seems arrogant because he thinks Desdemona is above having a relationship with Othello. When Iago refers to Othello with such derogatory terms such as a Barbary horse we can understand that Iago may be scheming against Othello. Iago is definitely a character we will have to keep our eye on.

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  34. Does Brabantio think that Desdemona was kidnapped, or ran away with Othello voluntarily? It sounds like he thinks that she ran away with him on purpose, and if so, he seems to have very little consideration of Desdemona's thoughts or opinions. He acts like she has no say at all in the matter.

    "This accident is not unlike my dream.
    Belief of it oppresses me already.
    Light, i say, light!"

    This stanza struck me as odd. Was Brabantio literally dreaming of a time where this would happen? And what does "Light, I say, Light" mean? It sounds kind of like to a motivational or inspirational speech. Is he trying to bring light to the darkness of the idea that Othello has kidnapped his daughter?
    So far, the character "Roderigo" seems to be kind of weak. He just does whatever Iago tells him to do. He wakes Brabantio, which could be very dangerous considering that he is bothering a powerful man, just because Iago told him to. He is definitely being manipulated by Iago. I think that Iago is just taking advantage of Roderigo's obsession with Desdemona, which shows another side of Iago's evil personality.

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  35. Do you think Othello and Iago have a bad relationship and thats why Iago wasn't assigned to lieutenant? Why? And how do you think Iago feels about him?

    Its a hard question to tell because Iago could have been a bad solider and thats why he didn't get the promotion. But I believe its because they had a bad relationship. I think this because, so far Iago seems like a very sly and sneaky kind of guy thats leads to believe he isn't a very nice guy. Also, he is helping someone get a girl that is married so that also gives me a bad vibe toward him. So, I obviously think that Iago doesn't like Othello because he wouldn't be doing these hateful things if he did.

    "making the beast with two backs" (Iago-130") This quote is said by Iago describing to Brabantio that his daughter is having sex with Othello. I choose this quote because I feel its characterizes Iago perfectly. He came off to me as a revenge type guy and here is doing just that. Othello didn't give him a promotion so tells on him by telling his Othellos partners dad that they are having sex. Overall I just thought it matched my impression of Iago very well.

    Impression: My impression on Roderigo is that he's a bad man that always gets what he wants and will go to anything length to get what he wants. I think this obviously because he hired Iago to try and break up Othello and Desdemona because he wants to marry Desdemona. So if anyone goes to that length to marry someone you are either a bad and spoiled man or just flat out evil.

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  36. Act 1.1 192-193
    "Brabantio: Fathers, from hence trust not your daughters' minds By what you see them act. "
    This line reminds me of a theme often talked about in Catcher in the Rye. This line spoken by Brabantio is suggesting that what people may seem like they are thinking is a lot different than what they actually are. People will not always follow their word with a corresponding action. Obviously, Desdamona would not have told her father about her plans to run off with Othello. She most likely appeared innocent and faithful to her fathers rules, but in reality she knew she would do exactly the opposite.

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  37. Act 1.1 192-193
    "Brabantio: Fathers, from hence trust not your daughters' minds By what you see them act. "
    This line reminds me of a theme often talked about in Catcher in the Rye. This line spoken by Brabantio is suggesting that what people may seem like they are thinking is a lot different than what they actually are. People will not always follow their word with a corresponding action. Obviously, Desdamona would not have told her father about her plans to run off with Othello. She most likely appeared innocent and faithful to her fathers rules, but in reality she knew she would do exactly the opposite.

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  38. What previous relationship does Iago have with Barbantio? The way he wakes Barbantio up in the middle of the night makes me think that they have met before and know each other to some extent. When Iago says "Do, with like timorous accent and dire yell" in response to Roderigo telling him he will wake up Barbantio with yelling it made me think Iago was spoiled. Just the way he said it made me think that is wasn't his first time manipulating someone and that he usually gets what he wants. That was also my impression of him. A spoiled, rich, well educated young man who always gets what he wants and is willing to do anything to get whatever he wants. Even if it means having Othello killed I feel like he would do it in a heartbeat if Othello stood in his way of happiness.

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  39. Was Desdemona kidnapped or did she willingly run away with Othello? In the first scene, when Barbantio asks Rederigo if they are married, he says he truly thinks they are. If Roderigo thinks they are married, it is evident that she wasn't kidnapped, and it was of her choice.

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